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is there any future atm forcing that I can use for CAM

xiaoxiaokuishu

Ru Xu
Member
Hi, all,

I plan to do a future run for CAM, as MERR2 is reanalysis data, I can not find a suitable atm forcing for the future.
Not sure, do you have any experiences about this?



Best
Ru
 

rrbuchholz

Rebecca Buchholz
CSEG and Liaisons
Staff member
Hi Ru,

Future scenario simulations are recommended to run with "free-running" meteorology, i.e. dynamics calculated inline by CESM.

Best,
Rebecca
 

xiaoxiaokuishu

Ru Xu
Member
Hi Ru,

Future scenario simulations are recommended to run with "free-running" meteorology, i.e. dynamics calculated inline by CESM.

Best,
Rebecca
Hi, Rebecca,

What you mean is first run an AMIP/fully coupled simulation to get the atm forcing for the future, then nudged CAM to this atm forcing

or directly run a free-running run for the future with land-atm coupled.

For the first solution, not sure if I can use FHIST (even though it is for the past) by setting SST for the future, e.g, 2050-2060.

Best
Ru
 

rrbuchholz

Rebecca Buchholz
CSEG and Liaisons
Staff member
Hi Ru,

It depends of what type of experiment you want to perform, there are several ways to run a future scenario. Here are some points from a discussion we had previously with another user:
  • Generally future simulations use free-running meteorology, but if you want to match an existing simulation, you can nudge to model output, if you have saved meteorology from a previous run.
  • Running with free-running meteorology (FCHIST) is not any more expensive than nudging if you run with specified SSTs (F-case). What is expensive is running fully coupled with the ocean model (B-case).
  • Fixed SSTs, I think exist for some scenarios and periods.
  • To run a fully coupled simulation, you probably want to use a WACCM6 case that has been run for various scenarios, which has been fully spun-up. Since a fully coupled simulation has a lot of variability from the ocean, it may be difficult to tease out any chemistry effects.
  • Note that even when nudging there can be small changes in the meteorology when emissions are changed due to the cloud-aerosol interactions.
    There are a couple papers about this linked on this page:
    Meteorology for physics-based nudging - CAM-Chem - wiki.ucar.edu

Best,
Rebecca
 
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