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Looking for CAM history fields like clean sky downwelling solar flux at surface and TOA.

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suvo_1995

Sushovan Ghosh
New Member
Hello scientists,
I am looking for cam history fields like clean sky downwelling solar flux at surface and TOA. The word "Clean" refers to all-sky flux without the aerosols effect or simply No aerosol sky solar flux. All-sky flux @ surface refers to Downwelling solar flux at surface (FSDS).
Is there any possibility to get the total solar flux in the component-wise like direct and diffuse parts?

Thanks in advance.
 
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brianpm

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The clean sky flux can be diagnosed by including an additional diagnostic call to the radiation scheme. This is controlled via namelist parameters called 'rad_diag_[N]' where N is an integer [1, 10]. See CESM2 CAM6.3 Namelist Definitions.

If you are looking for just output and not doing new simulations, you might check out the RFMIP simulations, they might have these fluxes included. I can't remember for certain.

The total solar flux is basically provided by the variable SOLIN. If you need to look at it by frequency, I think you need to check out the file that it comes from , which you could find in the namelist with the name solar_irrad_data_file. Beyond that, you could write out band-wise fluxes, but I don't think that's what you are looking for.

Hope that helps.
 
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suvo_1995

Sushovan Ghosh
New Member
brianpm said:
The clean sky flux can be diagnosed by including an additional diagnostic call to the radiation scheme. This is controlled via namelist parameters called 'rad_diag_[N]' where N is an integer [1, 10]. See CESM2 CAM6.3 Namelist Definitions.

If you are looking for just output and not doing new simulations, you might check out the RFMIP simulations, they might have these fluxes included. I can't remember for certain.

The total solar flux is basically provided by the variable SOLIN. If you need to look at it by frequency, I think you need to check out the file that it comes from , which you could find in the namelist with the name solar_irrad_data_file. Beyond that, you could write out band-wise fluxes, but I don't think that's what you are looking for.

Hope that helps.
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Hello Brianpm,
Thanks for the help regarding the clean sky flux.
you are correct that the total radiation is SOLIN. But I am looking for direct and diffuse part of the total radiation/clear sky and clean sky radiation.
It will be great if you have any suggestions on that.
Thanks in advance!
 
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Wenyu Liu

Wenyu Liu
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suvo_1995 said:
Hello Brianpm,
Thanks for the help regarding the clean sky flux.
you are correct that the total radiation is SOLIN. But I am looking for direct and diffuse part of the total radiation/clear sky and clean sky radiation.
It will be great if you have any suggestions on that.
Thanks in advance!
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Hello suvo，
I am looking for information about how to output cleansky calculations of radiation in CESM2.1.3 and I saw your post. Have you found the solutions? I will be appreciate it if you read this reply and could share your methods.
Thanks!
 
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brianpm

Member
@Sushovan Ghosh -- It's a year late to reply (Sorry!) -- I assume you found this, but yes, the direct and diffuse parts of the radiation can be had in CESM2. They are not typically written out, but the surface direct/diffuse fluxes are sent to the surface models. It looks like there are variables ready to use for those surface fluxes:
Code: 
         call addfld('SOLL'//diag(icall),     horiz_only,   'A', 'W/m2', 'Solar downward near infrared direct  to surface', &
                                                                                 sampling_seq='rad_lwsw')
         call addfld('SOLS'//diag(icall),     horiz_only,   'A', 'W/m2', 'Solar downward visible direct  to surface',       &
                                                                                 sampling_seq='rad_lwsw')
         call addfld('SOLLD'//diag(icall),    horiz_only,   'A', 'W/m2', 'Solar downward near infrared diffuse to surface', &
                                                                                 sampling_seq='rad_lwsw')
         call addfld('SOLSD'//diag(icall),    horiz_only,   'A', 'W/m2', 'Solar downward visible diffuse to surface',       &
                                                                                 sampling_seq='rad_lwsw')



@Wenyu Liu -- "cleansky" fluxes can be obtained by running and additional radiation calculation. To do this, one needs to use the "rad_diag_1" parameter in the user_nl_cam namelist. Here's an example, which I think provides the correct cleansky calculation for standard CAM6:
Code: 
rad_diag_1 = 'A:Q:H2O', 'N:O2:O2', 'N:CO2:CO2', 'N:ozone:O3', 'N:N2O:N2O', 'N:CH4:CH4', 'N:CFC11:CFC11', 'N:CFC12:CFC12'

IN ADDITION: you need to specify the outputs you want from the diagnostic radiation calculation. I think all the usual radiation quantities are available, and you just add "_d1" to their names. Here's an example (diagnostic radiaion in bold):

Code: 
FINCL1 = 'QRSC', 'QRLC', 'BURDEN1', 'BURDEN2', 'BURDEN3', 'BURDEN4', 'BURDENBC','BURDENPOM','BURDENSEASALT','BURDENSO4','BURDENSOA','QRS_d1','QRL_d1','QRSC_d1','QRL_d1','FSNT_d1','FSNTC_d1','FSNTOA_d1','FSNTOAC_d1','SWCF_d1','LWCF_d1','FSUTOA_d1','FSNS_d1','FSDS_d1','FSDSC_d1','FSNSC_d1','FLNT_d1','FLNTC_d1','FLUT_d1','FLUTC_d1','FLNS_d1','FLNSC_d1','FLDS_d1'
 
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Wenyu Liu

Wenyu Liu
New Member
brianpm said:
@Sushovan Ghosh -- It's a year late to reply (Sorry!) -- I assume you found this, but yes, the direct and diffuse parts of the radiation can be had in CESM2. They are not typically written out, but the surface direct/diffuse fluxes are sent to the surface models. It looks like there are variables ready to use for those surface fluxes:
Code: 
         call addfld('SOLL'//diag(icall),     horiz_only,   'A', 'W/m2', 'Solar downward near infrared direct  to surface', &
                                                                                 sampling_seq='rad_lwsw')
         call addfld('SOLS'//diag(icall),     horiz_only,   'A', 'W/m2', 'Solar downward visible direct  to surface',       &
                                                                                 sampling_seq='rad_lwsw')
         call addfld('SOLLD'//diag(icall),    horiz_only,   'A', 'W/m2', 'Solar downward near infrared diffuse to surface', &
                                                                                 sampling_seq='rad_lwsw')
         call addfld('SOLSD'//diag(icall),    horiz_only,   'A', 'W/m2', 'Solar downward visible diffuse to surface',       &
                                                                                 sampling_seq='rad_lwsw')



@Wenyu Liu -- "cleansky" fluxes can be obtained by running and additional radiation calculation. To do this, one needs to use the "rad_diag_1" parameter in the user_nl_cam namelist. Here's an example, which I think provides the correct cleansky calculation for standard CAM6:
Code: 
rad_diag_1 = 'A:Q:H2O', 'N:O2:O2', 'N:CO2:CO2', 'N:ozone:O3', 'N:N2O:N2O', 'N:CH4:CH4', 'N:CFC11:CFC11', 'N:CFC12:CFC12'

IN ADDITION: you need to specify the outputs you want from the diagnostic radiation calculation. I think all the usual radiation quantities are available, and you just add "_d1" to their names. Here's an example (diagnostic radiaion in bold):

Code: 
FINCL1 = 'QRSC', 'QRLC', 'BURDEN1', 'BURDEN2', 'BURDEN3', 'BURDEN4', 'BURDENBC','BURDENPOM','BURDENSEASALT','BURDENSO4','BURDENSOA','QRS_d1','QRL_d1','QRSC_d1','QRL_d1','FSNT_d1','FSNTC_d1','FSNTOA_d1','FSNTOAC_d1','SWCF_d1','LWCF_d1','FSUTOA_d1','FSNS_d1','FSDS_d1','FSDSC_d1','FSNSC_d1','FLNT_d1','FLNTC_d1','FLUT_d1','FLUTC_d1','FLNS_d1','FLNSC_d1','FLDS_d1'
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Thanks a lot for your help! I will have a try!
 
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